While CNN has their famous (-ly infamous) Youtube debates- the Cynical Political brings to you today a Gchat debate about the Republican side of politics between myself and my consiglieri.
The level of sophistication may be somewhat lacking...however, certainly no more so than the Youtube debate.
Enjoy~ As always, please jump into the debate and give your comments!
ME: i really want fred thompson to drop out and give his support to mccain
Consiglieri (CON): that would be nice
if mccain voters would just transfer
ME: it crystallized in my head last night that the only chance
(in my mind)
that the republicans have to win is if they nominate mccain, or the
dems nominate hillary
CON: or both
i think rudy can win a general election
ME: what have you seen in his campaign that would
make you believe that?
CON: what we've already seen doesn't matter
it what comes later because ppl dont remember this far back
ME: yeah, but hasn't he shown an ability to get out of his own way
he keeps tripping over stupid stuff
he needs someone to come in, clean house with the campaign and shape the ship up
CON: so did john kerry
and someone will if he has the full support of the GOP
ME: but the candidate himself has to be amenable
and kerry KEPT making dumb mistakes
CON: kerry IS a dumb mistake
and rudy proved to be amenable
he is a republican who won the mayorship of one of the most liberal
cities in the country with a population as high as several states
ME: what is acceptable behavior in NYC, is not necessarily
acceptable behavior in red state america-
i think a giuliani candidacy puts a lot more states in play for the democrats
which i welcome of course
CON: i think it also puts a lot more states in play for
the republicans - say new york
if you get ny, you may get nj and CT
ME: if obama got the nod- can you imagine him on
the trail talking the lord and his dreams from his father...
juxtaposed with rudy talking about judy, his kids who hate
him (and support obama) and his buddy bernie kerick
in conjunction with 9/11!
CON: 9/11
9/11
9/11
and the bible belt loves it
ME: and they will just ignore judy?
CON: everyone has for so long
ME: in new YORK...
he gets the nod...and this all gets re-lived...re-examined...
CON: i just think hes centrist enough to win
you figure each candidate should get 40% in any normal election
thats the party's base
leaves 20% of independents that really decide the election
someone in the center, guiliani, is going to do much better than
someone on the far right, bush or huckabee or the nuevo mitt,
and have a better chance to win
for the same reason a mccain can win
except mccain is about 100 years old and has some weird
chipmunk thing going on in his mouth
ME: but that chipmunk thing is cute...he's dimply and
grandpa-y...oh, and he can get the base out since he is
right (for them) on the war and taxes...and he behaves younger
than the lothario rudy g
CON: if he runs, people will have to like his vp candidate
alot more than usual
cause he looks older than he is, and hes pretty old for
president nowadays to begin with
ME: ronald-f'in- reagan
CON: NOWADAYS
which, mind you, is because reagan was braindead for 6 of his 8 years
ME: okay, so to wrap this up- you think rudy g could
win a general...but who do you think will ultimately be nominated?
CON: at this point i want to say huckabee and instantly shudder
ME: you don't think he will fall off after finishing last in NH?
CON: i dont think he'll finish last in NH
and then no, he will dominate the south
ME: what about a scenario whereby romney comes in a
close second in IA, wins NH by a sizable margin and then
catches rudy in florida? thats what i see happening...i think...
today anyway in this hour
CON: and when huckabee wins SC?
ME: im not convinced mccain won't win sc,
especially with a good finish in NH
notice that neither of us think rudy wins any of the first states?
CON: yeah i think hes done
ME: and he is still the "national" front runner...if he
pulls it off, i think it would legitimately shift campaign
strategic dynamics
CON: no he isnt
"huckaboom" caught him
ME: no, well not as of sunday anyway
[link that shows Huckabee has tied Giuliani]
ME: damn- now i am truly frightened...can you imagine a
huckabee-obama campaign? would it be a classic,
soft-spoken "nice-off" with only undertones of back
biting by unnamed sources?
CON: there may be some gentle petting
ME: huckabee: im nicer and love more of jesus than you do
obama: well, mike, you love more of a lot of things obviously
CON: well obama is a moslem rremember
according to hilary
ME: which, if hucks has a problem with mormon,
he'll sure have a problem with the mohammeden
CON: well at least you can argue islam isnt a cult
ME: thats a straight shot to 1600 PA Ave
CON: amen